Auto Pilot is a game changer

[PeterPalmieri]

I guess the Title says it all.

As you all know I’ve kept the boat pretty simple; engines, batteries, electronics and a small inverter. I don’t yet have all the electronics networked 100% or the radar hooked up. But we calibrated the autopilot and I can use Garmin active captain to mirror my electronics on my phone and IPad.

The iPad acts as a fish finder in the cockpit and my phone acts as a wireless autopilot controller. The obvious benefit of the autopilot in the ocean is to keep a straight line over long distances and I haven’t yet used the auto guidance/routing feature. But yesterday I managed to manually adjust the autopilot on my phone and take the boat all the way from the inlet back to the dock. Which could be a serious back up if my steering was to go out.

[Amberjack]

Good morning Peter, I’m writing from your side of the country today. Boy you guys have beautiful weather! Is it always like this?

I also just installed Garmin autopilot after years of navigational simplicity. In my case it’s to use when piloting from the cabin during bad weather allowing me to remove the primitive old lower steering station. Otherwise I rarely (never) use it as the Pacific NW is full of twists, turns and floating wood debris. Never can I troll from the cockpit for long straight stretches as fishing is always in the middle of a fleet of small boats dodging around. So it just rides along-until the next thunder storm. We sure use our boats differently.

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[Carl]

I believe most of the autopilots for our boats utilize a hydraulic pump plumbed into the boat hydraulic steering system. If the wheel/helm pump dies, yes your autopilot will work for you as a backup. If the hydraulic ram goes south or a line ruptures...autopilot will not work.

I use the autopilot for keeping the boat straight trolling...mostly putting lines down outside the fleet.

[S Ritzert]

I have yet to use autopilot. I have used Garmin's electronics for about 4 years now. Previous to that I used Simrad. I love how easy Garmin is to use, very intuitive, and the active captain rocks. I do have Garmins compact reactor that I was in the process of installing on my 28, but now that I have the 31, I will save it for that.

So, as Carl mentioned. The A/P is plumbed inline with your hydraulic steering, so if one unit goes out, you have the other for backup. Keep in mind too, that you have twin engines for backup as well. Not that twin engines will give you crisp pristine steering in a bad situation, but if you are having a steering issue, head home.

[Carl]

, but if you are having a steering issue, head home.

...yeah, but not always.

My last boat the arm attaching the steering cable to tiller broke while trolling in a crowd. A few minutes of anxiety till I stopped and figured out the problem. A bit of rope tied to something under the deck gave me enough steering to keep fishing till the bite was over and made my way back in. Steering was sloppy, but it steered.

[S Ritzert]

well head home unless the bite is good then. lol

I lost an engine about 30 or so miles out. I turned around to head home, and made a slight detour to a wreck, and we dropped for snapper. we ended up catching a limit, and salvaging the day. I get not wanting to head home

[Carl]

LOL, similar minds...

Access the issue, if your there and not in danger, situation is not getting worse whats the difference is we make a slow ride in now or in a couple hours.

Salvage the day as you said...the steering will still be broke, motor will still be down tomorrow, at least we catch today

[PeterPalmieri]

Years ago we loaded up for an extended weekend to stay over at Fire Island about halfway there the block of my 454 cracked or a rod pushed through. The bilge filled with oil and the motor was done. We limped the rest of the way to our destination and enjoyed our 3 day weekend. Went home at 4 kts on one motor.

If it’s safe to do so I’d salvage the day. I remember years ago Randal said he ran his 25 for an entire season with no steering and got really good at working the throttles.

[Carl]

If it’s safe to do so I’d salvage the day. I remember years ago Randal said he ran his 25 for an entire season with no steering and got really good at working the throttles.

Peter- That was the one exception to the salvage the day thing I started out with in this post. Last year...at least I think it was last year I was in the way of a few people wanting to go in the water, so I put boat in before going over everything. I made my way directly into my slip, which was a few slips from the well. Tied up, no leaks and went home.

A couple days later we decide to go for a check out ride and maybe a little bottom fishing. Warm motors, untie, put in gear, turn wheel and its turning free...lost its prime, no steering. OK...two motors so I can at least go out, run a little with the two motors, wet some lines while I purge the system. Outside the harbor I push the throttles up watching the gauges, get on plane and temp keep climbing on the Starboard, alarm goes off. I pull down throttle and shut motor. Now I'm just outside the channel with breeze blowing me towards the jetty. Anchor goes out, grabs and its Now What time. One motor and no steering which makes for No steering and no making headway. It didn't take long to see the coolant was way down, I did have a couple gallons of antifeeze...so waited for motor to cool and started adding very slow, hoping nothing cracked, it stayed in or I found leak.

When full motor started, ran cool, I pulled anchor and bee lined it in. Next day I found a very small drip under pressure on one of the connections and one at the petcock...apparently it did a slow drip all winter. My stupidity for not checking everything over before putting boat in and taking boat for a ride without checking. The steering is from redoing the electrical when converting, the center fitting is not tight enough and will drain helm over long periods of no use...aka winter layup. Easy fix, but time consuming.

Anyway...I may or may not have fished that day while waiting for motor to cool. Kind of a blur... Lousy when the backup plan goes down.

[Dug]

Pete, over the years I've certainly been served with many opportunities to "salvage the day". Always the good choice.

And you are right, autopilot is a complete game changer. Life is better with an autopilot!

[SteveM]

Being able to eat a sandwich and watch the chart plotter & compass without having to hold the wheel for 10 hours straight is a very nice thing.

Would love to hear how you are using the iPad screen, etc. I have always thought there would be a way to do this. I suppose I need to read up on Active Captain.

[PeterPalmieri]

With Active Captain you can mirror and control any screen. So I can mirror the sounder and throw the iPad in the cockpit when I’m fishing. I can sit in the cabin and play with the chart to plan my next route. Or my favorite pull up the autopilot on my phone and sit back and enjoy.

I’ve had some issues with my older 7” units integrating with the network of the 10” center. Decided over the winter to replace the 2 7s and upgrade the 10 to a 12”. So the integration this year should be much better. It’s really the only thing keeping me from launching, hopefully done soon

[Snipe]

I am still learning my electronics they do so much. Hope this year we can catch up on the water somewhere.

[PeterPalmieri]

Definetily want to plan on it.

[Ironworker]

My bride and I went down to the Exumas on Thursday afternoon, mermaid camped overnight and fished the next morning. We started fishing at 6:30 and by 9:40 had all the fish that we needed but we fished on. We stopped fishing at 11:00 am and headed back to the barn with 20 Mahi in the new Kill box which is approximately half-full. We spent way more time cleaning the fish than catching them but our neighbors were all very happy.

No way we could have done that without the assistance of an Auto Pilot. My furuno AP has some trouble maintaining course at slower speeds which is more a function of weather and the limitation of the rudder size than the AP.

[bob lico]

i build a complete bullet proof steering system a copy of winton cup race car steering and like carl said what if the pump goes bad, no problem reach under dashboard and flip two ball valves and bypass the pump . like peter says the auto pilot will steer in perfect straight line with oversize rudders however sitting in extreme comfort chair with auto pilot i fall asleep at the wheel !!!! my son has to check up on me every so often -------not good how do you stay awake for for four hours in a easy chair? the Furuno radar has a 280 degree normal area and 80 degree danger zone in front of your heading it also has the targets lit in red and a beep but if you are dozing off this is no help . phoenix has never had a mechanical or electrical break down in 18 years but snag lots of crab trap lines in the bay at night

[Yannis]

Bob,

You may consider going to BMW or some other car manufacturer, and ask for a vibrating seat/eye lid detector, combo, LOL !!

[bob lico]

my son does the smart work i can't do like rigging Ballyhoo, rig for MAHI,MAHI wnen we see the first flyer ,then re rig for trolling for tuna, putting out the two way backs on the center rigger and double outriggers. he cares for all of the catch and salt ice in the kill box then rigs for chunking at night while i fall asleep driving the use of "no -dozed" on the water is no good sickness starts to develop ! never a break down of any kind in 18 years with the boat but the captain makes up for it .my son installed a fire alarm bell for all engine parameters i test it twice a year real loud thank God it never went off while o was sleeping driving the boat some times 30 mph in waves the boat just floats my son fears the phoenix into the side of a container ship in the canyon