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Bob- just to clarify, 4200 is NOT UV resistant, neiter is 5200. The off-white color of a bertram will hide this at first but as the sealant gets older it will yellow further. If someone was also to use teak and get teak cleaner on the 4200 it will turn even more as it is not resistant to teak cleane...

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this is why acrylic is a great choice, it comes longer then 8', and there is no need for a heavier thicker panel.

I dont even remember how old craig's acrylic is, I believe its over 10 years old though.

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acrylic is another choice, it comes in thin panels that are easy to install and remove.

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Andy, I'm guessing that I picked the right face for your avatar. Just picked the one that looked most like a pilot... I had 2 Cobras buzz my place a couple of days ago and take a closer look at the B31 I'm working on. Got waves from both crews. Last year it one lone Blackhawk. Did the same flyby & ...

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your secret is out Bob, I have found a picture of you about to grind the boat for glass work

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Bob had better be concentrating on selling boats at the show and not fiddling with props!

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they probably sell 10000 or even 100,000 auto units to one marine unit- someone has to pay the R&D

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you can even pick who you want to speak!

a man or a woman computer!

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I got one a few months ago, love it.

they work better then the ones that come as original equipment in cars

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I already got a report earlier in the weekend that the windshield was almost out, was more interested in how the new piece was going in.

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come on Bob- dont leave us in suspense

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Bob- make sure once installed you pay extra attention to the windscreen, being that it is gelcoat it will not hold its color and gloss as well as the paint around it. Try to wax it once a month or even more if you can. Would not be a big deal if it was seperated a little more, like if you ordered a ...

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Bob, Bill's original windshield was one offed to fit a particular boat. He then made a mold of the windshield before installing it. By the same token that the aluminum frames for one B31 won't be an exact fit on another B31, neither will his fiberglass windshield be an exact fit on your B31. Anothe...

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dont worry Bob, the way things are going there will probably wont be any eggs to compare your interior to

even the unique is only that way for so long, lots of things people in the business did to one off boats make thier way down into the simplest of production boats sooner or later

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I wont pretend I did the vinyl, we had the guy who made all the custom cushions for the v-berth and the u-shaped couch do the vinyl. He was not happy about doing it, harder and harder to get anyone to spray glue inside a boat. Its not rocket science. Only thing I did were the side filler panels to h...

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its not that expensive, this application it is not used to step on. If your thinking of it for the deck I advise you to use something else. at this time it does not look like the day it went in, boat has been sitting and got quite dirty, his boat has no door or canvas, the boat is always open. Cushi...

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I swear I know that guy in the picture, is he originally from New York?

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Craigs vinyl is going on 7 years if Im thinking right, I feel it still looks like the day it was installed

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the good thing about putting vinyl or carpet is that you dont have to remove all the old glue. We are doing that right now on a 25 Bertram and its disgusting work, going to fair and paint the hull sides on that one. Forget ebay for getting the vinyl, go to your local shop and pick some up and suppor...

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padded vinyl looks a hundred times better, easily wiped clean as well

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geography and usage plays a big part, what works for some is not always the same for others

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Bob- thats a Gemlux part, they make some really nice pieces in stainless, it screws right onto a thru-hull.
It CANT be one piece- how would you get it through the boat?

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Bob- is this the manifold you are talking about?

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I wonder if we were not in the situation we are in how many of those would still be closing?

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I predict a depressing NY boat show, and possibly no show next year :(

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If I give advice, I give it knowing that it is solid advice. You can take the advice or leave it, thats up to you, and I always like to think that someone asking questions gathers the advice of a few people and comes to thier own conclusion. As for the skaters- I work on them from the late 80s, no p...

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and if your awlgripped or imron bilge is peeling it was not prepped properly, you can put either over raw glass and it will stick as long as you clean and scuff the glass, you can put either over gelcoat but the gelcoat must be scuffed and cleaned. both will tolerate being submerged, it might get so...

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why not just use gelcoat?

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"what are you doing with the windows?" is always the first question a 31 owner is asked, not for nothing Bob- but with the project you have in mind the painting is the LEAST of your concern as far as time and costs involved.

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it does look like it is blocking that driveway and seems like it could have been worse, hopefully they dont make a mess of it

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I have probably told a dozen people who come in the yard asking about Craig's Bertram about Sea Nile- if its half the boat it looks like in the pictures its a steal.

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prices are really not that bad, about $175 for a 3/4 gallon of white

this site has prices and products
http://www.penumbramarine.com/shop/inde ... sv95b3d243

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DuPont is in the process of releasing thier line of Marine Finishes, it has been around a short time but it has been very quiet. I believe its "official" release might be the IBEX show next month. For years people have used Imron and other DuPont products, we have been spraying Imron since the day i...

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that is Craigs new panel

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here you go craig

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I think Bob was just venting about his issues trying to shoe horn a motor into his boat. Bob- I know who makes those scuppers on the boat, I have seen them before. The Mako is now fine, we not only raised the deck we removed over 150 pounds, which on that boat was huge. The owner is beyond happy tha...

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You seem to have all the answers Bob, so need for us! But to further explain- when you have a deck LOWER then the waterline of the boat you no longer have a boat that bails on its own, there will be water on the decks and then you are relying on bilgepumps to keep you afloat if there is a storm or y...

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Bob we go through this alot with different boats, the bracket will not have enough bouyancy to counter the weight of the bracket itself and the motor to make the boat sit as if it came from the factory. If the boat is going to be a trailer boat then it might not be so bad, but on some boats- and I w...

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come on bob- build a scoop for the thing, it will be better then a ugly suzuki hanging off the back!

jspiezo- he wanted the boat to take the kids tubing, but now he just uses it to hot rod around the bay.

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bob- 250etec ho weights under 510lbs, 100 pounds off the back of the boat is huge in my opinion. I went through all this picking a motor for our whaler project, weight was a big issue so we went with the 250 etec. It is a great motor and the owner does not drive it gently. im going to go off topic a...

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suzuki 300 is 604-615lbs advertised weight dry, in real world thats almost 700lbs hanging wayyy back off the transom

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700 lb outboard hanging on the back of that thing?
Bob you been licking too many electric outlets!

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craig is looking for real engine turning, we went over some other options but his mind is set. I even suggested engine turned vinyl under his gauges, when the gauges are in place very little of the panel is left visable anyhow. craig says the original panels are stewart warner and were not custom ma...

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you have a good enough hole in the boat and you can have a dozen pumps and you still going under

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its always nice to see boats underway versus on blocks or in thier slips

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I see Capt Pat with his big ass camera- show us some pictures!

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no one else?

no pictures from anyone?

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you mask FAR away, a little overspray around the repair wont hurt anything because you are going to buff it out anyhow.

In your case- mask the name, and the bootstripe, paper at least 1' away from the repair area

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how did your touch up go

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capt pat- milwaukee angle grinders have speed adjustment- might be a good choice as they last forever

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