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Bertram 24

Posted: Jun 30th, '09, 15:12
by boatnuts
Is there anyone on here with any knowledge of the origins of the 24 foot hull? :?:

Posted: Jun 30th, '09, 17:25
by Tommy
Boatnuts,

In the mid to late '60s, Bertram Yacht tested the "muscle-boat" waters and built a 24' and a 28' "Cigarette" knock-off (along the lines of the Bertram 20 Baron). Best I can tell, they only produced them for a year or so, and then they quietly disappeared from the Bertram line-up. They have very nice and sporty lines, and are surely built rock-solid like the rest of the 60's Bertrams.

Posted: Jun 30th, '09, 20:07
by randall
isnt the 24 the one they made the "camper" out of?

Posted: Jun 30th, '09, 21:08
by Buju
isnt the 24 the one they made the "camper" out of?
Yes it is. I think the only 24's I've seen were open (moppie) with a pop up camper cuddy.
I was under the impression they were a Napier design and from the 70's,when they came out with the 26 and the 28, having a very similar hull design, with a non rounded keel at the transom, less tumblehome, and smaller lifting strakes...very unlike the Hunt designs.

Posted: Jul 1st, '09, 07:46
by CMP
There was one up here that I could have had for a song, but I'm project-tired and need a break. Love the boat and how she looks-good luck. Hey Buju, I'll be down yer way 29 July-3 August. I'll be in touch...

CMP

Posted: Jul 2nd, '09, 07:58
by boatnuts
The hull I have just started working on is the "Moppie II" version with no camper bow. I am a big enthusiast of the hulls that are "V" to the heel, having previously owned a 25 foot Magnum Marine for a dozen years. The aft 2/3 of this hull is almost the spitting image of the 24 foot Cigarette, only a tad wider and extremely similar to the Magnum I had. What I was really wondering is if this hull was actually ever put to any offshore performance competition and if so are there any photos. Thanks guys

Posted: Jul 2nd, '09, 08:12
by In Memory Walter K
I think I remember a thread on this with pictures some time in the not-too-distant past. Walter

Posted: Jul 2nd, '09, 16:10
by Buju
Boatnuts, what year is she... 70's vintage? Is this the one that was for sale in Wisconsin for a few years? Sharp ride...

Mark, bring it on... been meaning to get back to you on the pm. Will do so now.

Posted: Jul 3rd, '09, 08:36
by boatnuts
Buju - this is 1971 and not the one from Wisc. - it was a pop up front camper version. This one is the Moppie II and came from the Boston area and originally from Florida.

Posted: Jul 3rd, '09, 10:57
by Craig Mac
regarding offshore competition, by the time this boat was put in production offshore racing had matured to larger hulls so do't think it could have been competitive.

formula was sucessful back in 1964 with their 24 foot hull, but by the 70's with outdrives to handle big horsepower, boats had grown to 32'+ bertram was probably campaigning a 38' by then.

try the book Sea Race to get a complete picture of scene.

Posted: Jul 13th, '09, 13:47
by boatnuts
I am pretty sure that if this hull was ever used in competition that it would have been in the later 60's

Posted: Oct 26th, '10, 15:37
by boatnuts
Just a little update. This is still an ongoing project but I had it up running for 2 months before storing for the winter last weekend. I hope my updating and minor customization do not offend any of the "faithfull". The 24 is truly pretty boat that performs very well.
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Posted: Oct 26th, '10, 15:45
by randall
beautiful!!!


unlike cars there is no stigma in updating and improving the basic design. having a 40 year old car and driving it now and then is one thing...taking a 40 year old boat way offshore is another.

Posted: Oct 26th, '10, 19:02
by TailhookTom
That boat is gorgeous -- no need to worry about offending me -- I'd give my left nut for that ride!

Posted: Oct 26th, '10, 20:42
by Tommy
Outstanding Boatnuts! How about filling us in on the power package and your performance numbers. She is a real beauty and a true classic.

Posted: Oct 27th, '10, 07:41
by boatnuts
She's running a Mercruiser 383 Magnum MPI and a Bravo 1. The engine only has about 17 hours on it but cruises nicely at 2700 RPM and just over 30 MPH and depending on prop tops out at 4650 to 4800 and well past 60 MPH This engine has been a most pleasant surprise. I have run big blocks in my previous boats. One was a 330 HP and the other was a 500 HP and I was sceptical as to what to expect on a small block stroker in a boat of this size and weight. It is more responsive than expected and picks this boat up even with a good load on board rather quickly. Best part is she is fun and comfortable to drive at any speed.

Posted: Oct 27th, '10, 08:32
by John F.
Great numbers, great looking boat, graet job. Did you have a BB in her before? Just wondering how the numbers compared.

Posted: Oct 27th, '10, 09:01
by boatnuts
John
I bought this as a stripped bare hull a year and a half ago. Before I got the boat it had a straight 6 like most of the smaller Bertrams.

Posted: Oct 27th, '10, 10:12
by In Memory of Vicroy
wow!

UV

Posted: Oct 27th, '10, 10:36
by Dug
Boatnuts,

She is stunning. Absolutely beautiful!!!!

Dug

Posted: Oct 27th, '10, 15:14
by Craig Mac
it's similar to the route i went with my boat--in hot rodders terms-shaved

Posted: Oct 27th, '10, 16:44
by Charlie J
thats a head turner for sure

Posted: Oct 28th, '10, 22:08
by Tony Meola
What a great looking boat. Classic lines.

Posted: Nov 1st, '10, 07:14
by boatnuts
Thankyou for all of your possitive comments. I am really thrilled with this boat. I hope to finish all the interior trim and accessories in the spring.