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Today sanded the second coat of Awlfair on the back wall, turned it around and applied the first coat on the other side.

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Today plumbed the holding tank, macerator, Y and the generator water intake and exhaust up to the muffler. Also started the Detroits after 2 years, they started immediately and sound GOOOOODDDD.

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Today installed the foam and vinyl for the v-berth sides. Tomorrow I'll stretch it a little more so that its completely wrinkle free.

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Finally laminated the kitchen countertop. Went with a metallic gray laminate. I'm not in love with how it turned out as because everything is wood nothing matches but it will work for a few years :-D :-D . Tomorrow I'll install the wood trim as I left it drying today.

It originally had a range stove and oven and it was replaced with a cooktop and small oven.

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Yesterday finished installing the wood trim on the kitchen and painted the v berth under the cushions. Just so that when I lift the cushion it looks nice. Only thing left to do before the engines is remove, paint and install the wood trim on the bathroom, install the toilet (still waiting for WM to deliver it to their store), paint the bathroom's floor, install the salon A/C (also waiting for WM) and see how I can do something so the fridge doesn't move. Bathroom work will be done this week except for the toilet. A/C and fridge have to be done at the same time as water hoses and electrical for the A/C go behind the fridge.

The hotel where I work should open soon so if I can do all of this before going back to work then its just engines, back wall,sand primer, paint and bottom paint on the weekends.

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Oiled up all the wood on the inside of the boat, v-berth, galley and bathroom. Also installed the Delta faucet on the galley. Toilet and A/C should be here on Monday so I'll sand, prime and paint the bathroom floor before Monday so that I can install the toilet as soon as it arrives. I'll also install the A/C and can tie down the fridge. At that point I'm left with engines, floor, back wall, paint and bottom.

I need to buy the engine mounts for the engines. Where can I buy them?

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Online, yanmar dealer...our local is Mack Boring http://mackboring.com/

When I was looking I didn't find any great price breaks aside from used. Seaboard Marine has their own brand in addition to stock for a bit less coin built to same standards or better. I purchased and compared to my originals and was happy. So far with boat still on land they work great...hope to add to my recommendation sooner than later. I just don't have your drive after hours.

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I bought them last night from them.
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Fridge has been secured and it doesn't move and also sanded and primed the bathroom's floor. Finally got the A/C water lines and power behind the fridge to where the unit is going. Only things to do are sand primer and paint floor (tomorrow), install toilet and install A/C (next week). After that I don't have anything else to do until I get the engines from the mechanic.

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Sanded and painted where the toilet is going. After the installation is complete, I will sand and paint the other half. Just don't want to mess the new paint.

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Very productive day today. Installed the toilet (hoses and electrical were already in place) after that finished painting the floor in the bathroom and installed the A/C. Tomorrow I'll fabricate a piece of furniture to cover it up.

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Hurry.... You might have to go back to work soon.
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mike ohlstein wrote:Hurry.... You might have to go back to work soon.

I'm sure he's looking forward to some time off from his "vacation".
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Did the cover for the A/C today. First installed the return in the front of it and the supply on the side but it looked awful so opened a new hole on top of the return for the supply and it looks much better. Need to buy a new wood panel to do the side again. At least I can use the first one as template.

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Today finished the A/C cabinet, installed the A/C water pump and a cover in case the seal goes bad the spray doesn't damage the generator and installed a sub-panel for the water maker and A/C water pump. Don't have any more breakers on the main panel so had to install the sub-panel.

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Connected the power lines today to the generator, started the generator after 2 years and tested all the systems with it.

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Yesterday installed the captain's chair. The original one was very low so extended the tube so that you can see while driving. This created a problem...... it was too close to the steering wheel and my belly (its not that big) was on top of the steering wheel so had to eliminate the gauges from where they were and move the wheel up.

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My plan is to seal all the holes on top of the console (except for the controls) and move the wheel up about 3" - 4". and install the gauges on top of the morse controls (NEED YOUR OPINIONS ON THIS). Its the only place that I can put them.

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Sealed the holes today with marine plywood and fiberglass. Will be faired tomorrow.

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I would not say it's your only option, could angle the wheel or install a tilt wheel. Could move gauges up and out a bit and bring wheel up some as a compromise. Can the chair be moved back a bit?


I'd say you do have choices...but I personally like the layout you did. Move wheel up and breakup the Port and Starboard gauge cluster to fit forward of the controls.
My only down side is I kind of like gauges close to compare and you lose space to put something else where the gauges are going.

The down side is minimal as your opening space under the wheel area and gauge placement I have a feeling you"ll be used to the placement before the boat hits the water.
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Carl wrote:I would not say it's your only option, could angle the wheel or install a tilt wheel. Could move gauges up and out a bit and bring wheel up some as a compromise. Can the chair be moved back a bit?

I'd say you do have choices...but I personally like the layout you did. Move wheel up and breakup the Port and Starboard gauge cluster to fit forward of the controls.
My only down side is I kind of like gauges close to compare and you lose space to put something else where the gauges are going.

The down side is minimal as your opening space under the wheel area and gauge placement I have a feeling you"ll be used to the placement before the boat hits the water.
A tilt wheel would have been a new idea if the helm wasn't brand new. My original plan was moving the chair back but would have to rip out the ceiling on the salon and its in perfect shape. Gauge clusters are going to be separated although I like them together for the same reason as you.

Did all fiberglass work today and moved the wheel up a bit. Its perfect now although I think now I need a 15" wheel instead of the 13" as it looks small now. I found on dieselpro a cluster that I like so ordered 2.
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Add some gauges, controls...that wheel size will fit right in looking like it's always been there.
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Started cutting the holes for the gauges. Didn't have the 3 1/4" hole saw at hand so those will be done tomorrow. Engines should be finished (assembly) in 2-3 weeks.

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Micky,

The bigger tach holes are partially hidden by the wheel. I have the same issue.
Perhaps you could place them where you have an unhindered view or you might be moving your head right or left to check on them.
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Can you swap the panels side to side so that the tachs are on the outside edge of the console?
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Holes are already cut.
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mike ohlstein wrote:Hurry.... You might have to go back to work soon.
Start work again on Friday. Forced vacation is over.
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Haven't been able to do anything else on the boat, just spend money. Bought the rub rail, exhaust hose clamps (the t-bolt ones) the 6" to 4" centek reducers as the engines riser is 4" and the boat's exhaust is 6".

What aluminum thickness would you guys recommend to do the engine mounts? I need the C channel for on top of the stringers and flat bar for the isolation mounts. 3/8" OR 1/2"
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Still waiting for the engines but today installed the water maker and awlfaired the front deck. Sanding day tomorrow.

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Micky,

How long do you plan to operate the watermaker per day?
Do you plan to mainly use your generator or plug it to shorepower?
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Yannis wrote:Micky,

How long do you plan to operate the watermaker per day?
Do you plan to mainly use your generator or plug it to shorepower?
Thanks.
Yannis,

The boat will be at a marina connected to a shorepower. Generator use will be on weekends while cruising or in the islands. Watermaker use should be on long weekends or when on vacations in the boat.
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Sanded the awlfair on the front deck today and applied a second coat.

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Thank you Micky.

A watermaker has been a long unrealized dream for me...
I’ve been always wanting to be self dependent on everything, mainly electricity and water, and so far for the former it has been a total success with my two X 130w solar panels.
As for the water part, I’ve been looking for 12v watermakers which exist alright, only there are two issues: the 12v ones are apparently too sensitive, I have been told that they will not last long, and having paid in the 4-5k range to obtain something which will not last long is an issue...
The second thing is that for the water maker to be long lived you need very clean sea water supply. That sea water quality you do not get in marinas or any other area frequented by a lot of boats etc, or else you will have to replace your pricey filters.
Oh well, I’ll manage without a watermaker.

PS In my search I found an Australian, I think, watermaker that is portable, it is contained in a light blue plastic cylinder; you open it, drop one end into the sea, the other end into your tank and let it do its job. It can sit out on the swim platform for that, afterwards you pack it up and stow away. Neat, but equally expensive and too sensitive too I’m afraid
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Another fiberglass day....
Yesterday was cleaning up the silicone between the hull and cap when I heard a "crack" sound on the stbd aft corner. Started messing with it and it broke so brought out the grinder today. As with everything fiberglass related in this boat, it was fixed in the past with only filler, so sanded everything off and covered a piece of frp with masking tape just to have a temporary lower lip and started with the fiberglass. First used mat, then 1708, then mat 2 more times, kitty hair and marglass. It looks like nothing ever happened :-D :-D :-D Also sanded and primed the whole front deck.

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Gotta love finding old repairs even at this stage of the game, but much better than finding after paint.



I'm not sure if you noticed...but there is a hole in the transom.
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Carl wrote:Gotta love finding old repairs even at this stage of the game, but much better than finding after paint.



I'm not sure if you noticed...but there is a hole in the transom.
3 holes to be exact :-D :-D :-D
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Engines are almost ready.

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Damn you work fast! Are you using poly resin for those repairs? Keep it up!
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devinfox wrote:Damn you work fast! Are you using poly resin for those repairs? Keep it up!
I hope not....

Polyester is plenty strong monolithicaly, but it's a poor adhesive at best. Repair work that needs to stick to something (as most repairs do) should always be done with epoxy.
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devinfox wrote:Damn you work fast! Are you using poly resin for those repairs? Keep it up!
I used polyester. Epoxy is too slow to work with it would have taken me 3 days to do this same repair because of the cure time, plus its 8 times as expensive.
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Please please please.... don't make any critical structural repairs with polyester. Polyester is NOT and adhesive. Epoxy is.
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Everything structural has been done with epoxy. Miscellaneous stuff with epoxy.
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Well, finally I'll be picking the engines up on monday so STAY TUNED for more progress starting Tuesday.
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Engines are here.

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That’s pretty dang exciting!
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Imaginative to have ...white Yanmars!
Good luck with the install.
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I once painted the valve covers of a 351 Windsor engine with Chevy red. It didn't go well.....

I hope you have better luck.
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If you can't have Cummins, at least you can have the color...


...I hope that low blow wasn't too low.



I hope they run better then they look, I think they look great.
Best of luck with them, I'd expect a vast performance improvement over the motors you removed.
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So, engines are in place and installation of the first one is almost complete. Had to fabricate the engine mount brackets for the rear of the engines (on the transmission). Only need to weld one of the brackets and done with that engine. I'll finish that one tomorrow and should have the second one almost complete.

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Carl wrote:If you can't have Cummins, at least you can have the color...


...I hope that low blow wasn't too low.



I hope they run better then they look, I think they look great.
Best of luck with them, I'd expect a vast performance improvement over the motors you removed.
Carl, you are correct, I can't have Cummins as I bought new shafts when I started the project and they are 1 3/8", because of the torque I would need 1.5". You just went through the same :-D :-D :-D
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Odd part is I did not need to go 1-1/2" with the motors I bought. 1-3/8 was more than adequate...but I had 1-1/4" setup with the old 1:1 10 degree struts meant to turn 15" wheels.

Changle it one shaft size up or two made little difference cost or work-wise so I opted to go larger if I ever wanted to up the hp it would be a simple switch.

I am not a fan of motors under the salon floor...at least not until the covers are pulled away and you have all that room to work. Also nice in the summer and winter to get out of the elements...at least if you have heat and AC. I have them, but mine is reverse/reverse cycle it only blow cold air in the winter and hot in the summer. Spring and fall it's nice...

Sometimes they call the reverse/reverse cycle units a fan.


All that aside, its looking real good!
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