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alot of growing pains with hull #1

bertram was either building them on their own after that or they took the molds somewhere else they are no longer at L&M

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That's the rivets for the lid, think of a shoe box

If those studs glassed to the tank were for a fighting chair that's something you don't want to put back.

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the tank itself? the tanks are laid up in 2 pieces, a tank and a lid
they are laid up a little thinner than what you see now. The baffles are riveted in place, then the lid is placed on and that is also riveted. The whole thing is then wrapped up in more fiberglass

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Jim Ray did some if not all the work, that's his logo in the boot stripe.

As to the 3 fills I can't imagine someone needed more fuel you sure they aren't waste or water deck plates?

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usually get stains off the toe rail, install a drip guard under the stainless steel rub rail to divert the water from the hull i just paid attention it says mainly topsides- its just environmental fallout washing down, suggest trying to keep the boat washed more often or at least hosed down every fe...

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I remember that boat when it was up here, thats Jim Ray's boot stripe work

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SR60 I good paint, named due to its 60% copper content which means when it's on your lift it is going to turn very green.
A copper free paint will hold color better

If thinking of vivid you will want "vivid free"

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AMC canvas (631) 226-5424

Doramar canvas (631) 750-9202

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Pop them, and pressure wash the bottom real good with soap and water

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Just be sure to leave height/clearance for the fill, vent, feed and sender

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i wasnt paying attention thought it was a 31

maybe i missed it also but whats the need for so much fuel in a 28?
i also dont think that tank design with those 90s is a good idea looks too tight to bend and thats a lot of welding

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Deck supports are usually outside the stringers, tank looks like its going to interfere with that, unless you already have something else planned?

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if you think you are only priming it once white primer will require less white topcoat for coverage if you have a good amount of glass work to do, prime it in the gray. it will be easier to see what needs to be tweaked. Make corrections, Get the surface where you want it, then prime it with the whit...

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first try longer screws, if they dont grab and when you remove the trim nothing is moving around tape it off and use boatlife teak deck sealant

flat trim would be better but half round stainless insert is easier to come by probably why they used it

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Ok now i understand, are you wanting this a raw glass finish or will you be fairing it?
2 layers of 1.5oz CSM , dont bother gelcoating it where its going to be tabbed , unless you are doing the gelcoat after its glassed in place

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You can gelcoat right over it, but arent you glassing it into the boat?
Or are you asking about gelcoat AFTER you glass it in?

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Its pasted downto a sub floor, which is probably a little wet
It wont jump right out.

Sometimes they pop fairly easy, sometimes not so much. We only had to cut one the rest popped out after a little work

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I keep some Castrol bean oil handy. A couple of drops in the gas tank of the snow blower, ATV, chain saw. mmmmmmmm https://www.amazon.com/Klotz-BC-172-Racing-Castor-Oil/dp/B000WPUVVQ I also use this oil,but be careful it seperates from the fuel when it gets cold ,think its 35 degrees. I only use it...

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Did you cut the transom down? Or was it already done? it was an original full transom that had 26" stainless marine set back on it The idea was that he would just apply a little black bottom paint in that area that is under water, its only a foot or so hoping it comes up even a little bit due to th...

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the boat sits so stern heavy that we raised the scuppers over an inch last year when we painted the boat. We pitched the deck over a span of 2'. Owner said it worked out great and it got the drains up high enough. if you were doing a new deck you could obviously raise them even more but you still ha...

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Mahogany 1'bys with fiberglass tabbing here and there and or thru-bolts are typical of bertram construction

Your tank is pasted down and tabbed along the edges, getting it to break loose might take an hour or a day

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i have only done 4 tanks in 31's, but every one of them were pasted along the bottom to the sub floor, no foam some eventually pop loose, one we had to cut to get it to come out, sub floor is usually rotted by now anyway Remember when you cut the lid off the tank you also have to remove the monel ba...

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i have customers who keep imron bottoms in all season long, pulling it every week or two, washing, and putting them right back in.
small dime sized blisters usually more of them along the waterline itself, maybe from the light?

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it was a split mold, boat was in one piece but the mold was unbolted to remove the boat

Did they only make one of these? seems everytime I come across this copy its always the same green boat

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Interlux shrugged their shoulders and didnt even offer a gallon of paint , was kind of surprised considering how much awlgrip they jamn down my throat to get me to switch. The odd part was how it was all coming off down to the black.

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No paint will say it can stay submerged. If you dont antifoul it the paint will blister below waterline, usually small ones. If you dont like it after a season strike a waterline, sand, a coat or 2 of 2000e and the antifouling. It wont hurt the paint above the waterline unless a big sheeet peels off...

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Al I did have a boat we stripped the bottom down to gelcoat, few coats of 2000E and always used Micron. Boat would come to me every other winter or so, I was the only one to every bottom paint it he would usually get at least 2 seasons out of the paint. He decides he wants a different color than bla...

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al, if there is primer on the tape its a failure of the primer and it all needs to come off.

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Take a piece of duct tape 4-6" long, put it over an area with antifouling. Lightly scar the perimeter with a razor knife, peel the tape off. Let us know if you see bottom paint or primer on the back side of the tape. Do you know which antifouling they used? I personally am not a fan of the tuffstuff...

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Last year We raised the drains up little more than an inch, was able to pitch the deck. Was simplest way to do it as a deck replacement was not part of the project. Boat sits pretty stern heavy so drain is not a problem.

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Going witha different look than that but curious width at top and bottom , and your depth. Does the engine not trim all the way without the door down?

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curious what your splashwell width is, we modeled this one after a couple of other boats but still trying to keep it as small as possible, owner doesnt want to give up his little storage boxes on the transom cap, going to turn them sideways and glass them back in for him.

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We painted 2 20 sportsmens last year, one had been converted to outboard with bracket He had owned the boat when it was i/o as well. This year we removed the bracket and fabricating a splashwell, he says maneuverability especially in reverse is terrible with the Bracket. With the right style splashw...

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remove the sender, take a small inspection mirror and insert it into the tank looking at the underside of the lid, shine a flashlight on the mirror and see what shape the lid looks like

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for comparable range to stock capacity will obviously require a large tank. The space it occupies is pretty simple shaped, but the big issue is properly securing it. Plastic tanks cant be foamed in and unlike alum you cant just attach a bunch of mounting tabs to it and drop it over the stringers and...

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Btw 35 hull #1 has a 350 gallon alum tank

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A coated aluminum tank should outlast all of us

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as long as there is a single good model out there a new mold can obviously be made from it

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Looks like a custom 31, really like that bridge overhang shape

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we painted 2 20 bertrams this winter one of them an outboard conversion, it was already converted when he brought the boat here. This winter he is talking about bringing it back and notching the transom and having us fabricate a splashwell he says the boat's maneuverability is very poor the way it i...

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God speed sir

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On noyac and little bit on 27. We were at a family bbq in Sag Harbor
I didnt realize it on noyac until we got to 27 when i got close enough to see the frame and decals

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Dont know about texas but i was driving right next to you in your green jeep, license plate frame gave it away

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Yesterday i got an email from someone in Sweden who has a prototype hunter 19 he states that volvo used to demonstrate its new i/o engine. He searched and came across the thread where i was asking about the hunter 23 a while ago. He has one he will be selling if anyone is interested i will get his c...

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I usually get a scrap piece of isinglass from the canvas guy and screw it behind the insert

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I Havent asked Ron if he knew if the boat was originally gas powered or not.
Someone made a piece of fill pipe and plumbed the return lines into it.
All the lines in the boat have hose clamps

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Was it standard practice for factory diesel 31's to have the return line plumbed into the fill hose?

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