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John F.

If you can fabricate, weld,rewire, etc., you can fiberglass. It's not that hard, and you can grind it out if you screw it up and start again. I ask here how many layers of whatever I need for a particular project, look around Capt Patrick's tips page, or research old posts and see what Capt Patrick ...

John F.

I'd want to be able to open my boxes quickly if need be, and easily all the other times. I check oil and coolant and give the motors a good look over after each use, and sliding boxes would make this more difficult. I'd consider cutting the boxes to clear, and fiberglass what you cut to the wing pan...

John F.

Incredible work. Congratulations. Hope to see her on the Bay

John F.

I used the vinyl lined instead of lead lined Soundown. It's lighter, but isn't as effective. The Soundown guy was really helpful

John F.

http://bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11014&p=103443#p103443 Hopefully that link works. They're older pics of my B20 with a 200 yamaha. She'll run 40 knots max with an easy cruise at 20. You mentioned the Chesapeake. I live on Kent Island. If your nearby your welcome to check her out--prope...

John F.

I had 454s in my 1969 FBC. Around .8 mpg or so. I never really checked. Once the secondaries kick in, the mpg plunged. Gassers are quiet, no dismal smell, and as I remember she cruised at around 20 knots at 3000. Make sure the B31 you’re looking at has had the tank replaced. Gassers are great, but t...

John F.

Great pics. Thanks for sharing

John F.

John- What is the weigh ton those motors? Thought they came in at 1100lbs which is about the same as the Cummins 6BT. I don't know what the 8.2s weigh. I thought that they were close to the 3208s, but don't really know. The point of my post that was a 31 can be too heavy. Crows Nest ran heavier int...

John F.

Crows Nest has DD 8.2s (big motors). She also had a swim platform, half tower with heavy electronics, 8D batteries, a Westerbeke genny, and a Murray Bros. big chair. She sat about 3" lower than she does now. Everything is out but the motors--she uses 2 group 31s for starting. Although the head sea r...

John F.

No idea on the trailer, but congratulations on the sale. Even if they're paying your full ask, they're getting a sweet deal. Again, congrats

John F.

Fwiw, the diesel mechanic that went over my DD 8.2s recommended Stanadyne. I've been adding it since

John F.

Bob

I'm sorry to hear about your wife. You and yours are in our thoughts. Take care

John

John F.

Crows Nest (1977 FBC) had a big f'glass swim platform when I got her. I took it off and sold it (to each his own). As I remember, there were 2" x 2" or 3"x 3" marine ply backers with fender washers on each of the fasteners. That's it.

John F.

Congratulations Carl.

John F.

Thanks. We're on Price Creek of off the Chesapeake Bay. Just south of the Bay Bridge on Kent Island

John F.

A neighbor took this as we were coming up the creek after taking Crows Nest out.

John F.

Vince- Great work, and great job making a lifetime memory. I saw your boat in February in Lewes, and spent a sleepless night thinking about selling Crows Nest and buying your B31. I have no idea why your B31 hasn't sold. It looks like one of the best deals on a B31 that I've seen in the past 20 year...

John F.

The t-top looks great. The lines are perfect. Again, amazing work.

John F.

Sorry. I missed the point of your post. What you want are around, but when I was looking, they didn’t come up much. I was just suggesting Mako as a nice original example if you wanted to see one. I love my FB, but for your needs, I’d think about a Bahia or an Express. Or another boat like a Pursuit ...

John F.

Has everyone taken the lower station out, closed in the front windows and added a 1/2 tower? Look at Vince's boat in the classifieds. His boat is set up that way. Mac's boat "Mako" is set up as original--front windows, open bulkhead, and lower station. I believe that if you search you can find pics ...

John F.

I couldn't get the video, but congratulations

John F.

Awesome. Can't wait to see her on the Bay

John F.

Carl-

I get it. I like quiet boats. The quieter (or less loud) the better.

John

John F.

Carl- Crows Nest has a 5 inch exhaust with a big muffler on each side and something that I believe is a surge protecter on each side. The exhaust runs in the OEM position. Crows Nest has twin 300 hp Detroit 8.2s, and has been running with that exhaust for about 30 years from what I can tell (at leas...

John F.

When I redid Crows Nest, I made new plywood panels for the headliner. Its 3 pieces--one big piece for the port side, one piece for the starboard side, and a smaller piece for the head. I covered the panels in vinyl with a foam backing from Sailrite. I also made the panels so that they fit tight with...

John F.

Jack-

Try this:

http://bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.ph ... nt#p114006

If you have any questions, just ask.

John

John F.

Very nice. I really like how the angle in the forward pipework match the outriggers. She looks great.

John F.

As I remember, I had to remove the headliner and they were bolted on. I rolled and tipped my 31. Little foam rollers and foam brushes.

John F.

That looks really nice.

John F.

Incredible. Congratulations.

John F.

I've used Bilgekoat a few times. Its easy to work with and does the job. I tried a 2-part epoxy garage type paint once on a recommendation. Fumes were incredible, it was difficult to work with, and didn't hold up any better than Bilgekoat.

John F.

I took a ride on a Valhalla with a friend who is considering one. Nice boat. Really impressive

John F.

Thanks Bob and Carl. The bellows in Crows Nest have been in for a good while, so its time. I didn't know about split couplings. Split couplings will be used when I reinstall.

John F.

Thanks. The only option for a Simrad Cruise is a transom mount t-ducer. I need to figure out another unit. I'll probably just go with a nicer Simrad

John F.

The screen on old Garmin on my B20 has become unreadable. I want to get a cheap chartplotter/fishfinder to replace it. Whatever I get, I'll need a thru hull or shoot through t-ducer. A transom mount just doesn't work well on my 20. I have a couple of Simrad 7s (evo?) on my B31, and they've been fine...

John F.

Pete

Sorry to hear. Good luck with getting her up and running

John

John F.

Agree. I used Corrosion X, and then resorted to cutting. I also replaced with bronze rudder bushings instead of bearings. There's no difference in feel, they're a lot simpler, they don't require a Corrosion X spray down every few months, and despite my neglect, they still look and work fine.

John F.

Huh. Motors that are less desirable than my 8.2s (that have actually been fine so far). That makes me feel good about myself...

John F.

I agree with the above. In one of the pics near the end, it almost looks like there's a crack in a stringer. The boat needs a fair amount of work on the electric (wiring nuts?), plumbing, and basic organization. For example, I'd remove and glass over that thru-hull that Mike pointed out, and fix the...

John F.

She looks great. Beautiful job

John F.

Boat looks incredible. Just incredible.

John F.

Bob

I had no idea. Hope all goes well.

John F.

She looks great. Really great job. Congratulations

John F.

I had a pre-oil embargo 1969 B31 and now have a 1977 B31. The Bertram 31 hull is solidly built regardless of year. I believe Captain Pat's view was that the bulkheads didn't really matter structurally. The stringers do matter. The hulls do "work" when running.

John F.

Work of art. I hope to see her on the Bay this summer. You do beautiful work

John F.

Kentmor is a short ride/long walk from me. I’ll do a walk by tomorrow or Thursday, and PM you.

John F.

I personally wouldn’t redo a 30. Not a popular boat so I don’t think you’d ever get your money out of it. Jump to a 35. Or a 33. Or a 38. And I’d really think about Whaler’s B35.

That’s said, I live in Stevensville (where the 30 is according to the link) and can drop by and take a look.

John

John F.

Great video. Thanks for posting.

John F.

I used the foam/vinyl stuff from sailrite. I remade the panels out of 1/4" ply fit tight to the edge and eliminated the teak trim.

John F.

I use the regular West ablative paint and it works fine. I used Petit for years until it cost about 3x what the West stuff costs (on sale). I don't paint the running gear, and just paint right over the bronze thru-hulls. I of course don't paint over the transducer. Its worked fine.

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