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Karl Tank boat yard here in Lindenhurst had some on the shelf, which products I dont remember exactly, but there were 2 containers on the bargain shelf

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as capt pat said you need a rather hefty compressor to blast a boat.

This is one of those times its best to pay someone to come, tarp the boat and ground off, let them get messy and take thier mess with them.

At about $25-$35 per foot its worth every single penny.

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you can just use satin finish if thats what you like

I have sanded and polished satin finish, it just gives you a smoother, imperfection free satin finish.

If you have enough clear on that wood you can just sand and polish it to a gloss finish

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just another thought- if you flood the finish you can get solvent pop, which would also be a bumpy finish when you run your hand on it

this would be especially bad if you were working in the sun

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agree with capt. pat.. BUT- thier labor rate should reflect this and be a tad lower then a marina that obviously has more expenses.

At least you know where to find them if something goes wrong!

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Regular fine line is a pale green, the blue fine line is vinyl more suited for making circles, it costs more and is not needed for doing those simple stripes.

that 233+ tape you have on there now actually makes really good sharp lines.

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Bob- we discussed this.
You have the imron already, use it.

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I said those guys look like they were plugging away.
I have yet to do one without having to do a repair or two to them.

Are those hatches acrylic or just that smooth on the backside?

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how did it come out?

I have been waiting for a update!

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I would like to hear the results of the flex mold project on a large scale job like that. Personally I would have pre-fabricated panels on a glass table and laminated those into the boat, making slick areas where the hatches were or in between sheets of laminates. Having used that stuff for repairs ...

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they used to sell a wedge kit for those plastic door things

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neoprene

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im sure if there are boats around there are guys who are MORE then qualified to make you a tank. Deal locally and see and feel whats going on, you want to move something you can talk about it, put a bracket here or there- you can talk about it. Deal locally, a shop in another state is not going to m...

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the better paints will give you multi-season usage.

but it all depends on your usage, if you use the boat ALOT you wont get any growth regardless so at that point any ablative will do the trick.

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the word years ago was not only would they not respond, but if boarded you could get fined.

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Thanks for the inputs guys. Trey I'll get in touch with you in the next few days. Raybo Marine... I would disagree based on the service record of these very successful hulls. Basically there are still hundreds of them in service after 40 years. I've ripped into more than a few boats and every boat ...

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waste of time in my opinion. and whoever thinks closed cell foam does not absorb water can come down and take the garbage pails of the stuff out to the dumpster next time we dig some out :-D Having only seen the grid of 2 of those 25 Bertrams I can tell you the main issue with them was the grid not ...

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unless you can levitate the boat moving the stands is the only option.

if you levitate the boat shoot some video!

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could have been worse- you could have went to drink what you THOUGHT was the tea.

sometimes it is best to put everything down and call it a day.

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I dont think I have ever needed a 2.2 tip, even a 2.0 is a handfull. Spraying thick coatings with that 2.0 they tend to wrinkle because the coating is so thick and it comes out with such a narrow spray pattern. I would caution a person just starting to paint to stay away from anything larger then a ...

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Binks 2000 was a great gun, I dont know if they are really making it anymore, they were bought out by Devilbiss. a LVLP gun is along the lines of the newer tech guns like the GFG670 gun I mentioned. John D- you are being quoted for the prep work which takes the time, start out working on something s...

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personally I think one would be a fool to use a expensive spray gun for gelcoat. For that I use Astro guns, you can get thiers with a 2.0, I also use a 1.4 having had gel kick off in my gun before it would hurt to be scraping an expensive gun out. Not like you can benefit from good atomization or a ...

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I had a GTI gun when it first came out, then converted it to a GTi millenium by changing the cap and tips. Trust me when I say get thier GFG-670 gun instead, uses just about half the air and will outspray the GTI gun anyday. Trust me on that one- and for those using the GTi, try the GFG-670 and see ...

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I happen to like the way those veggie powered diesels smell- french fries and egg rolls going down the road!

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I thought about it after, the price you got was great IMHO and you can do some bilge/motor maintance at the same time.

the boat I mentioned is gas powered, I just sometimes think of the pandora's box when it comes to engine removal.

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we pulled Craig's transmissions out of his boat this spring to re-seal them, there was no need to remove the engine.

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you may want to put a door in the wrap and get started now, you should know these things have a way of getting way out of hand easily!

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there was a rotary powered 20 Bertram that toured the country in the 60's, it was called the "rotary special", Popluar Mechanics had something to do with it.

I know the person who owns it and the whereabouts of it today- right here on long island and can be seen once in a while on Lake George.

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I just noticed this thread was still alive- Im 99.99999% certain that aviation fuels do not contain ethanol. I would not trust a aviation product for this purpose. On another note- we have been relining cat style speed boats due to the fact that the tanks are built into the design of the hull. Bladd...

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I have yet to see powdercoating hold up any better then paint. its easier and cheaper to powdercoat. The process is simpler for parts like frames and tubing because you dont have to shoot paint in the air trying to get it on the surface. Like paint, in a saltwater enviroment- it will require maintan...

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thier boxes are designed to be used with thier kit, cant use just the boxes.

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I said one looked a little better, honestly I dont like any of them

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I like the cork better then the flex, the flex looks like a rubber mat

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locally its $75-$100 sq. ft. for the plasteek or the cork stuff

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correct blocking puts all the weight on the keel, the stands are just there for stability.

3 sets of keel blocks is a good idea

stands/blocks aft by chines, stands/blocks by chines about midship for stability

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you can buy boxes of neoprene strips in various thickness, intended to sit under fuel tanks.

made by Shields so any boat joint will carry it.

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panels were probably made from gibco flex mold, flex mold is very expensive and time consuming, especially when you factor in bonding them to the deck.

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awlgrip now makes extra course, I have yet to have anyone try it.

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capt patrick if money was no object would you prefer awlgrip primer 545 over interlux 2000/2001? i would appreciate your opinon because my interlux 2000 is peeling off in spots taking the bottom paint with it.i just pulled the phoenix today to clean bottom and i put it back in the water with white ...

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I dont know what system he is using, but it sounds like a barrier coat system of another brand.

personally I would just go with the simple 2000E system.

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not sure if you have done it since those pictures, but you need to remove ALL the bottom paint, every last bit.

Where the old shaft logs were does not look like it was ground out far enough- again I dont know if it was changed after those pictures were taken.

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Only Capt Pat can make a living off 31 bertrams, the rest of us have to rely on common folk boaters, searays are great for business!

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Gemlux sells all stainless ones with neoprene flap.

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what kind of "mini" trailer?

I have a trailer that had a 16' boat on it, I dont have much use for the thing.

perfect for a small boat or better yet- a skiff

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a space between the bottom paint and stripe would have done the trick

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I cant make out what your saying, is there anything left?

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im trying to get Bob with his oil burners to race Craig and his stock big block gassers, no luck yet.

Craig has weight on his side, boat is VERY light.

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where is Craig Mac and his hot rod 31 that hits over 40 when you need him?

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pay extra for a clean boat regardless if you are going to bring it down to the stringers, you will be MUCH better off in the long run.

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ianupton wrote:If you seal the top and bottom of the rubrail with sikaflex or something similiar wouldn't this make the problem go away?

Ian.

nope, wont make the streaks go away

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